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i'm here today with john kenny john is the author of two novels, Truth in Advertising,

which won the Thurber Prize for American Humor, and Talk to Me, which just came out on January

15th. His recent tongue-in-cheek poetry collection, love poems for married people, which came out on

New Year's Eve, 2018, is absolutely hilarious, and you should buy this now for your wife or husband for Valentine's Day.

A former advertising copywriter, John, has been a contributor to the New Yorker since 1999.

He lives with his wife and two children in Brooklyn, New York.

So welcome John to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

Thank you.

Thank you for the invite.

Of course.

So lots to discuss today, and I know this is out of chronological order of how you wrote these books,

but I wanted to discuss love poems for married people first for many reasons. One, because it's so ridiculously hilarious and I loved it.

And two, because Valentine's Day is around the corner, and this is such a perfect, giftable item,

and everybody should be giving it to their husbands and wives and everything.

So how did you come up with the idea for writing this little collection of poems after your two novels?

It wasn't my idea, actually. I had written a piece a couple of years ago for The New Yorker for Shouts and Murmors called Valentine's Day poems for married people.

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