KFI, AM 640. You're listening to the John and Ken show On Demand on the Iheart Radio app.

On the radio from 1 until 4, you know the rest, right? You go to the IHeart app after 4 o'clock,

and it's the John and Ken on demand podcast. And there, we've had quite a show. First two hours so far.

There's a lot you missed. If you're just joining us now, we had an interview with Rick Caruso. We've had quite a show. First two hours so far. There's a lot you missed. If you're just

joining us now, we had an interview with Rick Caruso. We had great reports from Steve Gregory and

Maui and Blake Trolley up in, at that Nordstrom's at the Tabangas shopping mall. So all that stuff

is is on there. And you can listen to it after 4 o'clock. We continue now. We're going to talk

with Jim Lacey. Jim, some years ago, wrote the book, Taxaforna, was an Amazon bestseller.

And he's with the United States Justice Foundation. It works with that organization and they have a pull out because this,

this crime situation that everyone's upset with. And it runs from, you know, shoplifting at your

local 7-Eleven all the way up to murders and the death penalty being in a state of, what,

a moratorium, I think Newsom called it.

There's a moratorium on the death penalty.

So nobody's getting executed.

Well, it turns out that Newsom and the rest of the legislature are way out of touch with the voters on this,

because it turns out that a majority of Californians support the death penalty still. I mean, every time it comes

up for a vote, Californians want the death penalty. And it turns out 53% of registered voters

support the death penalty, only 21% against. And when you look at general election voters, it's 56 to 21. So it's a big, big majority

for the death penalty. And yet it doesn't exist under Gavin Newsom. So let's say, and there's

other interesting things and questions in this poll as well.

Let's get Jim Lacey on with the United States Justice Foundation.

Jim, how are you?

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