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Well, we're going to get another update now on the big tragedy that occurred Sunday night out in Cabazon

when a couple of helicopters collided at the scene of a brushfire.

These were, well, firefighter helicopters. One was actually a

Sikorsky S-64, as they call it, the sky crane. Of course, that actually does the drops. The other was a

helicopter, a Bell 407, that was there to try to, well, I guess, monitor the traffic over the fire and to guide other

helicopters at the scene. They collided and, of course, three people died. Two of them,

firefighters and a contract pilot. Let's pick up the story again with Steve Gregory to see

what else we have learned now that it's Tuesday a couple of days

have passed Steve well the NTSB was here yesterday they had their first sort of press briefing

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