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John's got some time off.

I'm here with Deborah Mark giving you the news updates.

And in about 15 minutes, there'll be another keyword revealed.

The KFI inflation compensation cash contest is back.

There's a keyword coming up at 220 and another one at 320, and it continues.

And to Tim Conway's show until 520 tonight.

So listen carefully to the word and then the instructions. And maybe

you can win the $1,000. All right. I got a lot to get to this hour, including a new report out

about how much is considered low income if you live in California. And we'll be particularly

focusing on Southern California. We'll talk about

exactly what these calculations are and what it is you're going to be considered poor if you make

that much money or less. And it shows you just how much the cost of living has risen in the state

and overall in the country just in the last several years.

We have another one of these reports out. The Associated Press has done a long story about fraud,

and in particular a pandemic relief money that started in 2020 under President Trump and continued into

Joe Biden's administration. This new number, we're going to get into the details of it because the headlines are talking

about more than $200 billion from two major pandemic relief programs.

My guest is Bob Westbrooks, a former executive director of the Federal Pandemic Response

Accountability Committee.

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