We're back. Hi. Welcome. That's it? Yeah, it's it. Let's get to business.

What's business then? You hate everything. The world sucks and you've given up.

You think it's good? I think it's wonderful. Really? It's a nice, bright, sunny day.

It's like you say when you go on vacation,

I just ignore all the news, I have a good time,

I don't think about it, like I completely tune out.

Sometimes you have to do that.

I'm doing that every day now.

In fact, I'm tuning you out.

But Deborah Mark got rebuked.

I did.

She did. Deborah Mark, well, we've known this, but it really came out in a longer discussion

yesterday that she does not eat animals, but she will wear them.

That's true.

And a listener wrote, hi, Deborah, I appreciate you do not eat animals and always speak out

for them.

However, I just wanted to let you know that leather

is not a byproduct of animal agriculture. It is a separate industry where cows are often

skinned alive and tortured for their skins. How about that? I did not know that. I know you do

not want to contribute to the suffering of any sentiment beings. I always like that term, sentent beings.

Well, he sent to Pita Link, which I'm always suspicious of.

I need to do my own investigative.

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