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Odd Lots

John Hempton on Greensill, Archegos and What It's Like To Short Right Now

Odd Lots

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🗓️ 19 April 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

It's a weird moment for the markets. The big stock indices are near all time highs. And yet there have been some high profile meltdowns and blowups. There was the collapse of the vendor financing firm Greensill. And there was the wipeout of the Bill Hwang fortune. Meanwhile, numerous SPACs and other speculative stocks have been getting clobbered. So we talked to short seller John Hempton, the CIO and co-founder of Bronte Capital, for an explanation of what's really going on.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Adlots podcast. I'm Tracey Alloway.

1:00.0

I'm Joe Weisenthal.

1:02.0

Joe, I feel like it's been a pretty bumper year for financial frauds and scandal,

1:09.2

and maybe bumper year isn't the right way to put it, but I feel like a bunch of them

1:13.1

have sort of been coming to light over the past 12 months or so.

1:17.2

Yeah, it's kind of a weird time because the stock indices as of right now, they're all basically

1:24.8

right at all time highs, but we've had a lot of, I don't know if they're like,

1:30.4

per se frauds, but things going badly, blow ups, companies collapsing, hedge funds,

1:37.7

losing a ton of money. It's kind of been a slightly weird time because

1:42.3

things that you don't necessarily expect at the top, or maybe you do,

1:46.6

basically a lot of things going south, generally speaking.

1:50.4

Yeah, I mean, normally it's like that Warren Buffett quote where when the tide goes out,

1:54.4

that's when you see people swimming naked, but the tide by no means has been going out lately.

1:59.4

As you mentioned, we have stocks pretty close to all time highs. We have ample liquidity.

2:04.3

It's a weird time for stresses in the financial system like this to be coming to light,

2:10.4

and yet we've had quite a few. Most recently, we had archaicos losing billions of dollars

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