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People I (Mostly) Admire

John Green’s Reluctant Rocket Ship Ride (Update)

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Author and YouTuber John Green thought his breakout bestseller wouldn’t be a commercial success, wrote 40,000 words for one sentence, and brought Steve to tears.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today's episode is an encore presentation of a conversation I had with author John Green a few years back.

0:10.9

I picked out 10 of my favorite all-time episodes, and we're playing them once a month for the next 10 months.

0:17.0

John Green has all the characteristics one would hope for in a podcast guest.

0:21.4

He's smart, done a lot of interesting things.

0:24.0

He's a great storyteller.

0:25.4

He's famous.

0:26.3

And he's not afraid to open up about his struggles.

0:28.8

I thought this conversation would go well.

0:31.3

What I hadn't expected is that by the end of the episode,

0:34.3

John Green would feel like a good friend.

0:40.7

My guest today is John Green.

0:43.6

He's the author of The Fault in Our Stars, which began as a novel for young adults and ended up a cultural phenomenon.

0:50.3

And he also, with his brother Hank, created the educational YouTube channel Crash Course, which has grown to an incredible 13 million subscribers.

0:59.4

If there's one thing I've learned after 30 years of being on the internet is that I have absolutely no idea what the future looks like.

1:07.5

Welcome to people I mostlyire with Steve Levitt.

1:13.0

One of the perks of having teenage kids is that it gives you an excuse, as a grown man, to read young adult fiction without people thinking you're strange.

1:22.1

So I've secretly been a fan of John Green for a while.

1:25.5

But when I stumbled onto his latest book, the Anthropocene

1:28.3

reviewed, I was shocked to discover that it was nonfiction, actually meant for adults. I bought it,

1:34.5

I went home, and I immediately started reading it. I could not believe how good it was. I put it down,

1:40.6

grabbed my phone, and I fired off an email inviting John to come on the podcast.

1:44.8

Then I picked the book back up, and I finished it that very same day.

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