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We're thrilled and honored to have two of the country's greatest thinkers on our stage tonight,

political philosopher John Gray and psycho analyst and author Adam Phillips.

The inspiration for their conversation tonight is John's

latest book, The Immortalization Commission.

Just to begin with, John, it seems to me that the book in some ways is of a piece with

straw dogs and black mice and so on, both are very different. Could you say something

about how the book grew in your mind?

The book is really differs from previous things I've written in that the core of it is two stories in which the questions or themes or

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