John Gleeson on ‘The Gotti Wars’

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🗓️ 29 July 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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John Gotti was the boss of the Gambino Crime Family in New York City and one of America's most notorious mobsters. Nicknamed “The Teflon Don” for his ability to beat criminal charges, Gotti became a celebrity mob boss and was no stranger to law enforcement. Gotti's reign was put to an end by convictions obtained by John Gleeson, a former federal prosecutor, and Gotti's conviction and others that followed eventually led to the takedown of La Cosa Nostra in New York City.

Decades later, now-Judge Gleeson memorialized how he obtained Gotti's conviction in his new book entitled, “The Gotti Wars: Taking Down America's Most Notorious Mobster.” Former Lawfare associate editor Bryce Klehm sat down with Judge Gleeson. They discussed how Gleeson became involved in one of the biggest mafia cases in the history of United States jurisprudence, conflicts between the prosecution and the FBI, and how underboss “Sammy The Bull” Gravano became an informant to take down the rest of the mob.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:32.6	I didn't need Gervano to convict Jagati, but he helped me convict almost 50 other guys.
0:41.2	And if those 50 other guys had emptied out their closet and told us of all their murders,
0:50.5	I guarantee you would have been substantially in excess of the 19 Gervano community.
0:56.7	And more importantly, not all 50 of those guys were murders.
1:00.7	A lot were though.
1:02.7	And you know, one thing you need to understand, where you have this debate about striking
1:06.9	deals with accomplice witnesses like Gervano is the people we put in prison for life based
1:14.0	on his testimony would otherwise have remained on the street and they weren't going to stop
1:19.3	killing people.
1:21.0	I'm Catherine Pompilio, associate editor of LawFair and this is the LawFair podcast July 29,
1:28.0	2022.
1:30.0	John Gati was boss of the Gambino crime family in New York and one of America's most notorious
1:34.5	mobsters.
1:36.0	Nick named the Teflon Don for his ability to beat criminal charges.
1:39.8	Gati became a celebrity mob boss and was no stranger to law enforcement.
1:44.4	Gati's reign was put to an end by convictions obtained by John Gleason, a former federal
1:49.6	prosecutor.
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