Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come

to talk shop, I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and

downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, playing bass in the

band that your famous actor friend started because of the screen actor's guild strike or

else a scrappy upstart, attempting to scab in a TV production that that same actor is

picketing, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an iron

clad excuse to put off, actually writing.

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