I'm pretty sure it's dead, it's coming this way. Wait a minute, hey, I'm ghosted!

Hey Boo, it's me Roz. Okay, this episode today, okay, it's a lot. There's a lot

going on. There are facts. There are stories. There are theories. There is just, okay, I

have on John E. L. Tenney. And John is, I believe John will go down in history as one of the

great thinkers of our time on this, this type of topic, the paranormal world. I mean, John

is such a deep thinker and someone that really knows what they're talking about. And I just,

I love getting to talk to him. It was so fun. And we talk about a wide variety of things. And I

learned a lot. And I think that you will as well. And so I have some more on Patreon that you can

hear. We talk about cryptid creatures in Michigan. He does live in Michigan. So he knows a lot about

Michigan creatures. There's a, do you know there's a dog man in Michigan? Yeah, we talk about it on

patreon patreon.com slash Rose Dressfuless on my second tier on my first tier this week. I do a

little tour of my fun divine bathroom. That is all themed around the drag queen legend divine. And

a little bit of angeline thrown in there too. So go check that out on Patreon. And this is another

episode that's like it's dense. There are we cover a lot of ground. So I'll keep it brief in

this intro. And let's just get into it. Here is John E. L. Tenney on with the show.

All right. Hello, John. Weird question. But how are you?

I am doing as well can be as can be expected in this very odd and strange time. But

I mean, I'm always doing fantastic. Every day is I'm glad that I'm not in the cemetery.

Yeah. Well, I mean, we're both people that really like odd and weird things. But I think it's gone

to a whole different level in recent times. Not necessarily in the ways that I prefer. But we're

hanging in there. We're doing our best. And I mean, I'm a hermit all along. I love sitting in my

house reading books, drinking coffee, drinking wine, and not talking to people. So a lot of this is

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