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Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

John Duns Scotus with Sr. Mary Beth Ingham

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8723 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

What is the note you are being called to add to the great universal orchestra? Today Richard helps us unpack Chapter 12 of Eager to Love, "John Duns Scotus: Anything but a Dunce". Mike and Paul are then joined by Sr Mary Beth Ingham, who shares her journey of understanding Scotus. Ingham addresses the title of her book Scotus for Dunces: An Introduction to the Subtle Doctor, explaining its playful yet meaningful approach to making Scotus's complex ideas accessible. The three discuss the importance of individuality within the context of community, the Univocity of being as a bridge between human experience and divine understanding, and the significance of recognizing the dignity of each person's experience. The conversation culminates in a reflection on the mysticism of Scotus and why his teachings matter for us today. Sr. Mary Beth Ingham, CSJ currently serves as Congregational Leader of the Sisters of St. Joseph of Orange, California. Mary Beth is Professor Emerita, LMU Philosophy Dept and formerly Professor of Philosophical Theology at the Franciscan School of Theology. She holds a doctorate in Medieval Philosophy from the University of Fribourg, Switzerland and has published widely on the thought of Franciscan Master Blessed John Duns Scotus. Her monographs include Scotus for Dunces: An Introduction to the Subtle Doctor (2003), Rejoicing in the Works of the Lord: Beauty in the Franciscan Tradition (2009), The Harmony of Goodness: Mutuality and Moral Living in John Duns Scotus (2012), and Understanding John Duns Scotus: Of Realty the Rarest-Veined Unraveller (2017). In her research, she argues that the spirituality of beauty, the via pulchritudinis, is at the heart of the Franciscan intellectual tradition.  Hosted by CAC Staff: Paul Swanson, and Drew Jackson Resources: Grab a copy of Eager to Love here. The transcript for this episode can be found here. Learn more about Sr Mary Beth Ingham's books, here.

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0:07.6

Everybody, welcome back to Everything Belongs, where we are focusing this season on Richard's book,

0:13.5

Eager to Love, The Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi.

0:17.9

And again, you do not have to read along with us, but we go through a chapter

0:21.6

by chapter. Those who get the added benefit of reading will be steeping in this content,

0:26.6

but if it's not your bailiwick to read along, there's no pressure to do so because these

0:31.6

conversations are more than enough. Today we're going to talk about Chapter 12, John Duns Scotus, anything but a

0:39.8

Dunce. I'm here with Drew Jackson. Drew, good to see you this morning. How are you doing?

0:44.9

I'm doing well, Paul. Good to be with you. Always great to be together. So you're not featured on this

0:50.3

episode as a host, but I know that you've mentioned many times that Eager to Love is

0:55.6

kind of a gateway book for you about how you got introduced to Richard's work. What do you

1:00.6

remember about this chapter on John Duns, Scotus, and his work and life and theology? What kind

1:07.5

of remains as you've sat with his work? What sticks out for you? Yeah, Paul, I mean,

1:12.4

eager to love, like you said, was really an intro and a gateway into Richard's work for me. And

1:19.7

even as I say that, I'm pretty sure that his work was the first place that I encountered Scototus. In particular, there was, I remember

1:31.9

Richards talking about Scotus's focus on the university of being in his work, this whole

1:38.5

idea of the on the oneness of everything, sort of the one voice, right, of creation and our participation

1:47.3

inside of this one creation of all things. And I think in particular, like I remember him

1:55.5

saying something along the lines of salvation, not being a divine transaction, but this sort of ever organic unfolding that we wake

2:05.2

up to, become conscious of, almost as if it's us becoming who we already are. And that was

2:13.0

something that really just stuck with me. And it was, I was like, I want to hear more about this.

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