From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's The Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

I've been endeavoring to get this man sitting across me on this show forever.

I mean, it goes back to ballers, actually, but he's become a film star in the interim between black Klansman and working with, what's that guy's name?

Christopher Nolan and Tennant.

Actually, with a few movies I saw in a movie theater during the pandemic would be Tenant.

And his newest film, directed and co-written by his brother is the piano lesson for Netflix.

I of course I'm talking to and about John David Washington.

Thank you for finally showing up.

Don't phrase it like that.

Words are powerful, sir.

All right, but thank you.

No, you've been, I don't know about ballers, but like definitely since the Black Klansman run, you know, we've been trying. Yeah.

But let's talk about why you're here, which is the thing I mentioned to when I first saw you, you kind of push back on it.

And I brought to Malcolm two weeks ago, of course it is, which is that you're a very physical actor.

And I think of you as like instinctively physical.

And clearly as an athlete, I think it's the way you understand people.

It's how they move.

And I think it's definitely part of who boy Willie is here in piano lessons.

I mean, who he is is on the outside. Everybody else has a little more

interior, but he can't help but let that person, have that person be on the outside. And I want

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