Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host,

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran, trying to play a socially

distanced concert over Zoom but forgetting your password, or else a scrappy upstart, playing a

DJ set at a coronavirus party and forgetting your mask in an attempt to win the door prize,

this is your show, because ultimately

it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's Friday the 14th of August 2020, and I'm so glad that you're here.

Thank you for joining us.

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