John Cena at MSG | Tony Khan speaks with Ariel Helwani | Pollock & Thurston

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4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston react to Tony Khan’s sit-down chat with Ariel Helwani, TKO’s big week at Madison Square Garden, a “Stunner” of a group chat, and the WON Hall of Fame class.

Topics this week include:

Tony Khan returns to the Ariel Helwani Show
TKO runs UFC 322 & John Cena’s Final Raw at MSG
ESPN and YouTube reach an agreement
Latest in the ongoing shareholder lawsuit against WWE
TNA has a terrible week of PR
Wrestle Kingdom 20 sells out
WON Hall of Fame inductees

Music courtesy: “Panic Beat” by Ben Tramer

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0:00.0	This month at post wrestling cafe.com, go Excel, and you get live editions of Rewind a raw,
0:06.3	rewind a dynamite, and rewind a Smackdown, featuring all the news of the day, your questions
0:11.1	and answers, as well as feedback. Post Wrestlingcafe.com. $6 gets you in the door.
0:17.6	Brandon Thurston from Wrestlingomics is up next, and we're going to follow Brandon with John Pollack from post-reclay.
0:24.3	Delivering on the returns, increasing our margins.
0:28.4	Radies go down the toilet if I'm not here.
0:31.3	All I do is simply put the math in my favor.
0:35.3	We agree that Brandon and John do good work.
0:38.5	The reason is simple wrestling economics.
0:42.4	I've been told the Netflix numbers.
0:45.3	I've been told the metrics a little bit.
0:47.2	Probably five different times.
0:48.2	I still don't get it.
0:49.4	There were respectable wrestling journalists who needed answers.
0:53.9	Thank you very much, members of the media.
0:55.8	I hope you all go to hell.
0:57.8	How about we pop a number right here, right now?
1:06.3	A whole part of the show, ma'am.
1:10.1	Welcome to Pollock and Thurston.
1:11.7	It's John Pollock and Brandon Thurston here with you.
1:14.3	On this Wednesday afternoon, where we have a lot to break down, TNA wrestling had a hell of a week.
1:23.2	TKO had a hell of a week in New York City.
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