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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

John Cale

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

NPR

Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

John Cale grew up a promising viola player in Wales. He moved to New York to study classical music. There, Cale met Lou Reed and formed one of the most influential acts in rock music: "The Velvet Underground." Their time together was short, but John Cale was only getting started. He became a producer and made some killer debut albums for artists like The Stooges and Patti Smith. It's the kind of resume that guarantees you a place in the rock and roll history book. But that's only one side of John Cale's work. He's also an accomplished, trailblazing solo musician with almost 20 albums on his own. When we spoke to John Cale on Bullseye in 2016, he reflected on his more than 50 years in music and his time in the Velvet Underground. Plus, what it was like to produce for artists like the Stooges and Patti Smith.

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:20.8

It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:23.2

John Kales' career in music stretches back at this point more than 50 years.

0:29.5

He grew up a promising viola player in Wales, in Flew West to New York to study classical

0:35.6

music.

0:36.6

Instead, he fell in with an artsy or crowd.

0:40.0

John Cage, Lamont Young, Andy Warhol, and eventually Lou Reed.

0:47.1

With Reed, he formed the Velvet Underground, one of the most influential acts in the history

0:52.4

of rock music.

0:54.1

You can hear his viola on the classic track, Venus and Furs.

0:59.5

Although his time with the band was short, four years, two albums, John Kales was just

1:23.9

getting started.

1:25.2

He became a producer, responsible for shaping the debut albums of the Stooges, Jonathan

1:29.9

Richman, Patty Smith, and Squeezie.

1:32.8

He also worked as a composer, scoring the film Spasquiat and American Psycho.

1:38.5

It's the kind of resume that guarantees you a place in the Rock and Roll history book.

1:44.2

But even that is just one side of Kales' work.

1:48.2

He's also an accomplished trailblazing solo musician.

1:52.0

He's recorded nearly 20 albums on his own.

1:54.5

He's worked in genres like folk, metal, classical, and industrial, and pretty much everything

1:59.5

in between.

2:00.8

He's collaborated with Lou Reed, Terry Riley, and Brian Enault.

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