John Cale & TJ and Dave

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2016

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Jesse talks with John Cale, the musician and producer, about his time in the Velvet Underground, producing artists like the Stooges and Patti Smith, and his latest record. Plus, comic improv legends TJ and Dave and new music from the band Split Single.

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0:00.0	Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.
0:14.0	It's Bullseye.
0:15.0	I'm Jesse Thorn.
0:16.0	It's always easy to remember getting bad news, right?
0:20.4	Getting dumped, finding out someone you care about is sick.
0:23.0	Those kind of moments you can't shake them.
0:26.0	John Kale, the composer, record producer, founding member of the Velvet Underground, remembers
0:31.6	the day that he got kicked out of the band.
0:34.5	He and Lou Reed, the band's singer, had very different visions for their act.
0:39.2	They'd been arguing about it for a while.
0:42.0	Then one day Sterling Morrison, the band's guitarist, approached Kale.
0:46.9	He just got out of a band meeting and Kale hadn't been invited.
0:50.9	Then shortly after that Sterling showed up and said, I just saw Lou.
0:57.9	He said, we're going to get going in Cleveland.
1:00.1	I said, oh great.
1:01.1	I said, yeah, but he said, if Kale goes, I don't go.
1:04.8	So make everyone you want to go with Kale in the band or you want to go with me.
1:08.3	And I was it.
1:09.5	So I suddenly thought, well, I better get going on the production side of things.
1:14.3	It's Bullseye.
1:21.9	Coming up, I'll talk to John Kale about what came after that.
1:25.2	The dozens of records he produced, a solo career that spent decades and how he and the Velvet
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