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Our American Stories

John Brown: The Radical Abolitionist Who Killed Slavery, Sparked a Civil War, and Seeded Civil Rights

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.3737 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, to Southerners, he was a dangerous villain. To many Northerners, a fanatic. But to himself, he was an instrument of God, sent to end slavery. Bestselling author David S. Reynolds (John Brown, Abolitionist) tells the powerful story of the man who helped ignite the Civil War and laid the groundwork for the Civil Rights Movement.

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0:00.0

You're listening to an I-Heart podcast.

0:20.0

This is Lee Habib, and this is Our American Stories, the show where America is the star

0:26.1

and the American people.

0:28.5

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0:34.7

or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:37.1

Up next, the story of one of America's most

0:39.4

divisive figures, both of his time and perhaps ours, due to the methods he employed to aid

0:45.8

in the destruction of slavery. We're, of course, talking about John Brown. Here to tell the story

0:52.4

is David S. Reynolds, author of John Brown abolitionist. Let's get into

0:58.2

the story. I don't agree with John Brown and what he did. There was a legal course in America for him to

1:05.8

follow. John Brown was a horse thief from Kansas. He stirred up trouble out there in the Kansas-Dabrasco Wars.

1:11.6

And all he did, and he wasn't in the majority, a majority of people maybe have the right to change the law,

1:16.6

but a majority of 21 does not.

1:18.6

A slave was property.

1:20.6

No man in this society today has a right to go into my house to steal my television set, to break my windows. No man in the 19th century had a right

1:30.4

to go and steal another person's property. That's exactly what Brown intended to do. What Brown stood

1:36.1

for was wrong. He was morally wrong. He killed. Slavery's wrong. I mean, we all know that.

1:42.0

How can you do anything else but to pull a John Brown? How can you do anything else to pull a John Brown? How can

1:44.6

you do anything else? Debradably realizing maybe that you're sinning or that you're doing something

1:49.6

wrong? Four million people, human beings, not numbers, not dates, not facts and figures, not words,

1:55.0

but human beings, they deserve to be free.

2:01.2

John Brown can be best explained by the adage,

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