John Brennan and Jerrold Nadler on 20 Months Under Trump
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 12 September 2018
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
The challenges that President Donald Trump has posed to the rule of law are well documented, from his delegitimization of the law enforcement investigation into his campaign and conduct in office, to his attacks on federal judges who rule against the legality of his policy prerogatives. Coupled with what many call his adversarial relationship with his own intelligence community, the Trump presidency has created a role of the executive with no analogue in recent memory.
On September 4, at the Center on National Security at Fordham Law, Representative Jerrold Nadler, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, and former CIA Director John Brennan, both outspoken critics of the president, sat down for a conversation about what they've seen in the past 20 months under the Trump administration, including their takes on threats to the rule of law, the investigations of the president, and ongoing vulnerability of American democracy to cyber threats.
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| 0:30.0 | There are a lot of things that we need to do to better protect our crypto infrastructure, |
| 0:38.0 | but we've come a long way. We really have. |
| 0:40.0 | I think we've increased in a hands-to-resilience as a country. |
| 0:44.0 | Our economy is doing very well. |
| 0:46.0 | I'm not going to say that Mr. Trump had nothing to do with it, |
| 0:50.0 | but I think it was on a very good trajectory over the last number of years. |
| 0:54.0 | But these issues that the administration have to deal with, |
| 0:58.0 | such as North Korea, Iran, cyber, other things, |
| 1:02.0 | these are complex and complicated issues. |
| 1:04.0 | And as Concentred Netto was talking about before mentioned in Demagogues, |
| 1:08.0 | what Demagogues do is try to exploit the fears and concerns of people |
| 1:12.0 | and come up with simple solutions that are anything but. |
| 1:14.0 | And that's why I think it's being seen now that the summit |
| 1:18.0 | and Singapore that took place between Mr. Trump and Kim Jong-un was a big marketing and showpiece, |
| 1:24.0 | but there was really no substance there. |
| 1:26.0 | These are issues that really require some of the best minds in this country |
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