Welcome to pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. One day after ousting John Bolton as his national security

advisor, President Trump cited disagreements between the two over North Korea and Venezuela.

John Bolton talked about the Libyan model and he made a mistake and as soon as he mentioned that the Libyan

model what a disaster take a look at what happened to Gaddafi with the Libyan model

and he's using that to make a deal with North Korea and I don't blame Kim Jong-un

for what he said after that and he wanted nothing to do with John Bolton. And that's not a

question of being tough. That's a question of being not smart. No, I disagreed with John Bolton on his

attitudes on Venezuela. I thought he was way out of line, and I think I've proven to be right.

Joining me now to discuss the firing of John Bolton and who might replace him is Lawrence Wilkerson.

He is the former Chief of Staff to Secretary of State, Colin Powell.

Welcome, Colonel Wilkerson.

You served with John Bolton in the Bush administration.

Your thoughts on his ouster.

Sad to say, I served with him in the Bush administration.

The deputy secretary of state, Richard Armitage, and I spent a lot of time trying to get rid

of John Bolton, but never could, primarily because I think Cheney and Powell had had to make

a deal, and Powell had to eat Bolton.

But he was very disruptive, very acerbic. I don't agree with

the people who say he's bright. I don't think he's all that bright. He's just adamant,

and he stays on the same ruthless theme all the time, which is usually making war with people

and destroying arms control agreements. And I think those two things, more so than making war with people, but the arms control

agreements too really screwed the pooch with him with regard to Donald Trump.

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