It's a beautiful Monday morning, everyone. Welcome back to Kaffarukast. My partner in time, Frank, the tank, is back from coyote hunting. Thank God. I was worried about you, Frank.

It was cold. It was cold and windy. Yeah, I was shooting a bow indoors and podcasts all weekend, so I was at least warm. But speaking of the cold, we have, which I love that name, the winter soldier, John Barklow, on the line today.

Yeah, Dudley, yeah, he came up with that.

I had no idea what he was going to do.

Yeah, so I guess that's me now.

Good to talk to you again, Aaron.

Frank, I haven't talked to you in a while. Yeah, what's going on, man? I don't think I've talked to you since TAC two years ago. I know. Aaron said you've been doing laundry ever since. I don't know what that's even about. Did I say... Maybe he said... He might have said Jim tan laundry. I probably did say the refrigerator thing, but he said Jim in his refrigerator. He might have said Jim Tan Laundry.

I probably did say the refrigerator thing, but Frank did, Frank grew up, he moved out.

I got my own crib again.

Thank you to, uh, thanks to Aaron and Amy, though, for letting me stay there for so long.

Probably out wore my out my welcome, but I'm definitely eating a lot of cereal and fucking

Oh, those like bagel, bagel fucking oil eggs bagel bagel bites cereal and

bagel bites hot pockets yeah oh I'm a bit famished Amy said you sent her a Texas that I'm cold and hungry

I miss you oh shit that's pretty funny well Well, John, now we got you on.

I wanted to get you on here because I got a phone call last week from, and this isn't the first one, but I, you know, a guy, a survival kind of expert guy got a hold of me about what we get by choice generally sometimes not you know stuck out away from

our camp overnight throughout the course of the year and when I say um by choice sometimes we're just

too lazy to walk back sometimes we're on an animal and we don't want to pack it out and it's a safety

thing and you know there's a few times I pack it out and it's a safety thing and

you know there's a few times I won't lie I've been a bit confused and twisted and I just thought

you know what I'm going to sleep here so you know his question was what do we keep in our pack to

stay overnight to to survive and my answer was pretty anticlimactic and knowing that Frank has the same shit, if not less,

maybe a little more, about the same, I would say, in our packs at all times.

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