John Allen and Darrell West on Artificial Intelligence
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🗓️ 17 July 2020
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Darrell West is vice president of the Brookings Institution and director of Governance Studies at Brookings. John Allen is the president of the Brookings Institution and a retired U.S. Marine Corps four-star general. Together, they are the authors of the book, "Turning Point: Policymaking in the Era of Artificial Intelligence," a broad look at the impact that artificial intelligence systems are likely to have on everything from the military, to health care, to vehicles and transportation, and to international great power competition. They joined Benjamin Wittes to discuss the book and the question of how we should govern AI systems. What makes for ethical uses of AI? What makes it scary? What are the anxieties that people have about artificial intelligence and to what extent are the fears legitimate?
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | Many of the data sets that are being used to train AI are either unrepresentative or incomplete |
| 0:40.8 | and that becomes a big source of bias. |
| 0:43.7 | I mean we see this very clearly in the facial recognition software area where a lot of the |
| 0:49.5 | pictures that are used to train a facial recognition system come from Caucasians and so it |
| 0:54.8 | turns out the facial recognition software actually is pretty accurate for white people |
| 0:59.9 | but not for non-white people. |
| 1:02.3 | So there's an obvious recommendation here which is in order to reduce the bias in AI in areas |
| 1:08.9 | like this we need to improve the representativeness of the data that go into those algorithms. |
| 1:15.9 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast July 17th, 2020. |
| 1:23.8 | Jarrow West is Vice President and Director of Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution. |
| 1:30.0 | John Allen is the President of the Brookings Institution and a retired US Marine Corps |
| 1:36.0 | four-star general. |
| 1:38.0 | They are together the authors of the book Turning Point, Policy Making in the Era of Artificial |
| 1:44.7 | Intelligence. |
| 1:46.1 | The book is a broad look at the impact that artificial intelligence systems are likely |
| 1:51.2 | to have on everything from the military to health care to vehicles and transportation |
| 1:58.4 | and to international great power competition. |
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