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Typology

Joel Smallbone Shifts His Narrative (Type 3)

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

It’s a mistake to presume your way of seeing the world is normal because that means every time you meet someone with a different way of seeing the world, if it’s different than yours, you will feel justified in judging them abnormal. But the Enneagram teaches there are actually nine normal ways of seeing the world, not just yours. Part of emotional and spiritual growth is the capacity to recognize the complexities of human personalities and to expand the aperture of our own lens.

Today, Anthony and I welcome the talented artist, musician, filmmaker, actor (and Enneagram 3), Joel Smallbone, to the show. We begin our conversation with an exploration of Joel’s personal experience with the Enneagram and he shares how the Enneagram helped open the doors of understanding within his marriage.

As our conversation progresses, Joel reflects on the process of creating “Unsung Hero,” and the profound impact playing the part of his father has had in his understanding of his father, and of how he relates to the world. As Joel explains, “What [it] has done for me is inverted the narrative, and it’s gone, well, hang on, yeah, you’re not quite as awesome as you maybe thought you were. And hang on, there’s other people’s stories. And hang on, there’s other people’s perspectives. […] So instead of me walking into the room simply sitting, going, who are you? Who are all you in relation to me? I’m almost arguably saying, “who am I in relation to you?”

Join us as we navigate these themes and celebrate the beauty of the human personality.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody you all know what time it is yes once again it's time for

0:06.4

typology the podcast on which we explore the mystery of the human

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personality and actually of the whole human adventure through the lens of the

0:15.5

anyagram. I'm joined by my esteemed friend Anthony Skinner.

0:20.3

Ian Kron glad to be here with, super excited about our guest today.

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I am super stoked about our guest today.

0:26.3

I'm, by the way, as you know, Anthony, I'm coming to you live from Typology Studios

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in downtown San Francisco, where I am presently in the fog and looking forward to the

0:36.2

warmth of this conversation with our new friend Eniagram 3. three.

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Aneagram, three artist, musician, filmmaker, actor,

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actor, Joe Smallbone,

0:51.0

welcome to the show. I've been saving I've been saving what I'm the

0:55.9

statements Ian for this moment I get asked to do these sorts of things as you do a good amount and this might take the cake for

1:08.8

the the podcast I'm not just saying this you can check with our office the one that I sort of

1:14.5

leaped out of my chair when it came across and I'll explain why because years

1:20.3

ago my wife had been married for 11 years, and in the fall of 2017, we're both musicians,

1:30.6

we were eating sushi, and I said, darling, haven't we done we were haven't we done great this year we were about five four and a half years in the marriage

1:38.2

five years in the marriage to have we done great like I've flown everywhere to meet you

1:41.6

I've checked all the boxes and she looked at me and she said I just don't really feel like

1:48.2

we've been connecting. Now this is pre-eneagram understanding and I was like how you know it was classic like how

1:58.8

could I checked all the boxes I did all the things and so at the beginning of 2018 we were planning a trip down to

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Australia and she was like I know we're going to Australia I'm a little nervous

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