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They say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day to

thicken that line, or at least make it a double or triple line.

Now here's your line jumping host, Eric Mat, Texas.

Folks, welcome to hour two.

Let me remind you in a few minutes.

We're talking to Joel Gilbert about Michelle Obama's, it seems, desire to be president of the United States to run in 2024.

Wait until you hear about it.

We continue our conversation with Johns Merrick.

Let me also remind you tonight.

We premiere another Socrates in the City video.

That's tonight, Tuesday, January 17th.

You have to sign up at Socratesin the city.com for the newsletter.

You don't want to miss it.

It's James Tor.

Trust me. John Zmirak,

what's happening? James Tour is scary smart. I don't say that often that when I talk to a person, oh my God, this person is so much smarter than me. I hope I don't embarrass myself.

Well, that's what's so I find people like that,

to some extent, you've fallen to that category for me. To me, there's humor involved. Like,

it's so funny to me when I'm talking, I mean, when people watch my conversation tonight with

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