Joel Braunold on the State of the Gaza Crisis
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🗓️ 20 February 2024
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
The conflict in Gaza is headed toward a critical juncture. Israeli political leaders have signaled their intent to assault Rafah, one of the final safe havens for displaced Gazan civilians—a move that U.S. and other international leaders fear could trigger a humanitarian crisis, or the long-term displacement of Palestinians from Gaza. Meanwhile, negotiations for both a ceasefire and a longer term resolution of the crisis are ongoing, but have little to show thus far.
To discuss the many moving pieces of the Gaza conflict, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sat down once again with Joel Braunold, Managing Director at the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace and someone who has long been involved in Middle East peace efforts. They discussed the current state of Israel’s military operations, how it is impacting (and being impacted by) domestic politics in Israel and elsewhere, and the significance of recent events ranging from the International Court of Justice’s grant of provisional measures to the Biden administration’s efforts to sanction the perpetrators of West Bank settler violence—all with an eye for better understanding where this crisis may yet be headed.
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| 0:59.0 | Qualifying income level may be higher in some circumstances. If you're Hamas and you're lucky at what's been going on and you can see that Israel and the United States |
| 1:13.8 | are fighting and you can see that the region is gearing up to try and create an end to |
| 1:19.0 | this conflict where you know an end to this war and a political horizon for the Palestinians. |
| 1:24.0 | And you can see that the Israeli international credit is dipping so much |
| 1:29.0 | and you can see Ramadan coming. |
| 1:31.0 | You can reach the conclusion, hey, why don't we slow play this? |
| 1:34.0 | If the Israelis are fighting with everyone and you know, there's internal division splitting them |
| 1:39.2 | and the international community is getting fed up and now they're invading Rafach after they were told not to. |
| 1:44.4 | You know, if we play this out and we continually spool this out and ask for greater and greater demands |
| 1:49.6 | that we know that the Israelis can't agree to, they'll dig their own grave. |
| 1:54.0 | I'm Scott I Anderson and this is the Law Fair Podcast for February 20th, 2024. |
| 1:59.0 | The conflict in Gaza is headed towards a critical juncture. |
| 2:02.0 | Israeli political leaders have signaled their intent to assault Raffa. |
| 2:04.8 | One of the final safe havens for displaced Gaza and civilians, |
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