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Exercise and movement is the answer.

That's a really amazing medicine which you can use every day.

Don't wait for the perfect conditions because they won't come. You have to create that time. The only answer really is you have done so much for this country. You have helped us get fit. I had no money. I didn't have a van. All I had was a clip on trail on the back of my bike. And how would you try and drum up business? I had little flyers that I'd give out outside Richmond Station. I was there like day and day out giving out flies hoping that someone would sort of take one. Don't try and transform your life in one day and revolutionise everything because you'll end up falling off the wagon and you lose motivation. Whether you're two years old or 72 years old, you always feel better after workout. And it doesn't solve solve all the problems in your world but it's at least knowing that on those days

rather than turning to ultra-processed food and sugar to make you feel better or

whatever you're having that exercise as the first sort of thing to try it can

transform how you feel in the day how can we enthuse people to start on that journey

just know that everything in life will change when you start to take care of

yourself. Yes. And your body and your mood and your energy, which really comes through. Wow!

If you want to live positive life and live in a positive head, I think you've got to be moving the

body a little bit. Everyone else comes first in this life, but actually you've got to find time for

yourself. But I'll tell you what I'm going

to do, Joe. First of all, I'm going to blow smoke up your ass because... You don't need to do

that. I am absolutely going to do it. You literally are changing the world. I mean, you, I see your soul, Joe. I honestly do. And you have done so much for

this country. You have helped us get fit. And you have helped the nation get fit. you have helped the nation get fit, you have helped us help our kids get fit,

now very seriously trying to help us become better around ultra-processed foods and lobby

the government about that and I'd like to also ask you how we can all help

you do that in the future.

But above all of that, I think, you are just a really good man that wants to do good in

the world and we love you.

And I'm so pleased you're here and I cannot wait to talk to you. That's a lovely thing to say, a lovely way to introduce the conversation. I feel the same. You know, I'm carrying in your work. You know, you've been getting the nation fit for years, but way more years before me. So I just love, you know, I love that part of what I do. But it's so nice to finally get to sit down. We crossed paths and had a little chat on there, but to actually sit and have a proper conversation and be really nice. I knew that we shared the same passion around health and fitness, but I had no idea until I did a bit more of a deep dive into you about your childhood. And I don't want to dwell on it for too much and I know you've talked a lot about it

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