What's going through your mind as a left tackle facing a guy like Miles Gair? Do you remember in 2017 what he was like as a rookie? He's a monster. Right? Like immediately? Immediately you knew that he was going to change the game. You know, you got the guards in the center. The center is the easiest position. By far the easiest. The fact that they even get paid a salary is kind of ridiculous. That one's for you, Kelsey. Yeah. Fuck you, Kelly.

He's making up for it now. No work. I think Todd's the right guy for the right time with the Browns where they are. If you don't have a quarterback, if you've got a young quarterback, well, I want a head coach that can develop that position because that's the most important human being in the franchise. Right. What's up everybody? It's Bo Allen. I'm sitting here in the Greenlight HQ, presented by Bet, M.J. One of my favorite players of all time, kind of my middle school icon. I've told you that. Joe Thomas, legendary Badger, legendary NFL football player. Joe, how are we doing? I'm doing great, man. I'm excited to be here. You guys got the primo spot here at the Super Bowl, right on the beaches of whatever the hell ocean that is right there. Looking out at the Golden Gate Bridge in Alcatraz. Hopefully we don't get in too much trouble here in the next couple days where they stick us over there in Alcatraz. Throw away the key. Joe, I'm dying, man. You just flew in today. You come up. You got a Cabela's carry-on full of Hall of Fame beef, man. That's right, baby. It's incredible. You go everywhere. I mean, if there's one thing I need in life every day besides maybe some other things. A zone? Besides the zone, it would be my Hall of Fame beef sticks,

my jerky,

and it's cool because people don't want to see me anymore. They just say like, hey, are you bringing that Hall of Fame jerky or the Hall of Fame Sticks? You're bringing that meat? You're bringing your meat, dude? I want to see it again. That Hall of Fame meat. That's right. But we talked about that. actually had the opportunity to interview you right before the draft, which was in Green Bay,

which is so cool.

And we talked a lot about your meat. And just excited to have you back on. And I'm sure we'll talk plenty about your meat. But we have a lot of other exciting things to discuss, too. One thing, dude, I got to bring this up just because this is so much fun to watch all year. Obviously, you're a Brown's legend, you know, protecting the quarterback's blind side. So I'm sure you know a lot about, you know, what it's like to play against a guy like Miles Garrett, man. And watch the honors last night and obviously got the sack record and everything like that. And just want to kind of talk to you about what's going through your mind as a left tackle facing a guy like Miles Garrett.

Do you remember in 2017 what he was like as a rookie? He's a monster. Right? Like immediately? Immediately you knew that he was going to change the game. And the only question was, you know, is he going to be healthy? Right. Because that's the big question a lot of times with some of these young guys, they come in and they're incredible, but can they stay healthy? Because he had already figured out the speed of the game. He already had the size, the strength, all the things you need to be great. And then it was just, all right, how great is he going to be? Yeah. So you're not really too surprised about him e, about him eclips in that record. So when we were in

OTAs, I practiced like, you know, four or five times the whole year because I was banged up and I was coming off a knee surgery. But I remember he was rushing up the field and this is just OTAs, right? And he just ran past the quarterback. I just pushed him past the quarterback. It was just like a little out route to the right.

And he turned on the burners. So the receiver caught the out and then beat the cornerback and runs up the field. And so now he's running down the sideline, little receiver pretty fast. He's got about a 20 yard head start over where Miles is. And he's only got to go 60 yards to get in the end zone. And so he starts scooting to the end zone and Miles turns on the jets from the backfield behind the quarterback.

And he ran him down like a cheetah running down to a gazelle or something like that and

caught him before he got to the end zone.

And I remember we showed that the next day in the film room like you do a lot of times.

Team meetings the next day you highlight, hey, these are the things guys did great during practice these are things that hey you sucked play better or i'm gonna cut your ass kind of deal and everyone put that up there and it was kind of like the head coach says this guy is going to be special yeah and we're like well thanks for telling us yeah he just ran on a receiver with a 20-yard head start, and he's 280 pounds.

Yeah, we talked.

We've been talking about meat. Like, we've got to talk about his physique a little bit. Like, dude, if I could be any NFL football player, I think it would be Miles Garrett. He's got that blend of just, you know, pure size, power, quickness, explosiveness. But the way he can bend. And Chris and I talk about this a lot of the podcast

Is his ankle dorsiflection.

Dude.

Do you notice that in offensive linemen?

Like it's such a small thing, but just that ability to bend kind of and finish at the top of rush, I think is what makes him so special. To you what, like, what is, you know, what kind of creates that ability to turn the corner and finish at the top of a rush. So this is something that I've been preaching for a decade because everybody talks when you used to hear about scouting offensive linemen, it's like, can they bend their hips or their knees? And I'm like, no, it's your ankles. Because if you can't bend your ankles, you can't bend your knees and you can't bend your hips and you can't get into that position not only does miles have incredible ankle dorsiflection so basically the top of the shoelaces can

almost touch his shins but he can do that to the side as well like his ability to have the full

cleat in the ground and then have his shin basically at a 45 degree angle outside of his body

allows him to have really good friction

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