The Michael Berry Show.

Do you remember back in 2007, Barack Obama is on a campaign visit and he straights off

course because there's this guy over there in his front yard watering it and he goes over

and that guy asked him this question.

I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes $250, $270, $80,000 a year.

Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, doesn't it?

Well, here's what's going to happen, if you're a small business, which you would get.

First of all, you get a 50% tax credit, so you get to cut them taxes for your health

here.

So you would actually get a tax cut on that one.

Because at some point you've made enough money, in the debate that year, between

John McCain and Barack Obama, Joe the plumber became a subject.

A couple of days ago, Senator Obama was out in Ohio and he had an encounter with a guy

who's a plumber.

His name is Joe Wertzelberger.

Joe, what you want to do to Joe the plumber and me and some more like him is have their

taxes increased and not be able to realize the American dream of owning your own business.

That's what Joe believes.

He's been watching some ads of Senator McCain's.

Let me tell you what I'm actually going to do.

It wasn't Wertzelberger, McCain.

It was Wertzelberger, Samuel Joseph Wertzelberger, came to be known as Joe the plumber.

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