So you've been, I would say, one of the longest term outspoken tech Republican donors.

What eventually turned you from someone who grew up in a very liberal enclave to, I would say, seeing the light?

My whole life, I've kind of had a very strong appreciation for liberty and for the Constitution that we're dealing with this, like, massive threat that could destroy our country.

You, along with Barry Weiss, co-founded university. What was the moment you said, I need to do this? I think a lot of people who are our age don't realize what's happened at these universities, like over the last 10 years when the wokenism and the illiberalism took over. All the young people that I hire out of these top schools, we hire for companies out of Stanford, Neal, and Harvard, and all these other places, and they're very

smart people, but they're all afraid, and everyone's taught and say the correct line, and don't

actually think for yourself, and this is really dangerous. That's how you lose your republic.

Do you believe in gentle parenting? I actually think that kids need firm boundaries.

Life is not kind. Life is hard. And I think to a certain extent you want to mimic those conditions inside your own house so that if they make a bad

decision, they do feel a little bit of the sting of making that decision. Yeah, you don't want to

train spoiled whims. That's not good.

Yeah. train spoiled whims. That's not good. Hi, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of the Katie Miller podcast. We're so excited

to be in Austin, Texas today, joined by Taylor and Joe Lonsdale. Thanks for doing this.

Yeah, it's nice to be here.

So, Joe, you're famously known as a co-founder of Palantir, among many other things, and your

beautiful wife. I would like to say she's well known as being the founder of a school and doing

what many moms across the country wish they could do.

And so I want to start there for a second, which is there is a big movement across the country,

especially you've seen, I've seen it this week on the news with, you know, more students than ever

are leaving schools in Chicago in Minnesota, in New York City,

and they're choosing to do something different. You've chosen something different for your children.

Can you walk us through how you made that choice and what that looks like for your family?

Yeah. When Joe and I were thinking about school for the kids, we had a few objectives and looking

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