And so as we work with our children, I think what we teach them is that, yes, we want to be kind and not out of a place that says, because I'm coming here as your savior to help you.

We want to be kind because we recognize a transcendent connection with them.

We recognize that there is something of God in each of us that we can all learn about.

And that is a beautiful thing.

So happy to have Laura Wiffler on the show today, co-founder of Risen Motherhood,

podcaster and author. I want to really hop right into our

conversation today, Laura, because we've been talking all month on the God knows season of the

podcast about God knows what you've been through in your body. Talked about helping teens

see their body in perspective with all the pressures and culture, talked about generational body stigmas, talked about

so many different things. And one of the things I've realized, when women sort of start to talk

about the body, we go immediately to thoughts about weight conversation. That's the first thing we

have in mind. But there is so much more to it when I talk

about God knows what you've been through in your body. And so, you know, people just deal with much

more. And you had written, you've written a children's book and it came across my desk at a

perfect time because I really wanted to talk about

what you talk about in this. The book is called Like Me and you wrote it to help kids understand

and be friends with those with disabilities. Talk to me, give me a little bit of background

about where you're coming from writing this book if people don't know who you are and

don't know your background. Sure, absolutely. Well, about five years ago, my youngest daughter,

my third child was born and she was diagnosed fairly quickly with a genetic disease called

rare chromosome. So it's kind of this blanket term for children who are pretty unique in what their diagnosis is,

which meant we really didn't have a roadmap or a spectrum even for what she would maybe be able to do

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