Hey, I'm Lisa Whittle and welcome to the Jesus Over Everything show, affectionately known as Joe.

We're around here, you will always hear honest conversations about life, faith, and true strength,

courage, and love in the midst of our real everyday life.

It is my utter delight to welcome my friend, author, wife, mother, professor, and Bible

teacher, Brittany Salmon to Joe.

This brilliant woman also happens to be someone that I've traveled with to the border

to do some work with women who welcome, and she is a mom with experience in transracial

adoption who shares with us so many

important things for those who may be adopting or have adopted cross-culturally,

fostering transracially, and the church and those of us who support friends in this space.

What is unhelpful to say and what are important ways to come alongside this gospel

mission? So many important things to talk through, crucial conversation with my friend,

author of new book, It Takes More Than Love, Brittany Salmon.

Okay, so a few things we need to get established for the listeners right away.

I love to explain to my listeners how I know a guest because that seems to matter to the Joe listeners.

So we know each other pretty well at this point, I would say.

We're not just internet friends. Let's talk about the ways that we know each other pretty well at this point, I would say. We're not just internet friends. Let's talk about the ways that we know each other.

And let me know if I get any of these facts wrong.

We were originally introduced by our mutual friend, Sharon Hattie Miller.

You came and did a ministry strong training once.

We went and did a trip to the border together with women of welcome, and we often will

send each other our wordal scores in a group text with Sharon, you, and myself.

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