Yay, you're here. I'm Lisa Whittle and welcome to the Jesus Over Everything interview show, affectionately known as Joe's Friday friend, where everyone I sit down and talk with is either an old or a new friend of mine.

While I'm sitting down literally in my own house for the interview show today

with Michaelan Smith, otherwise known to many of you as the Nestor, beloved home decorating coach

and coined her of the phrase, it doesn't have to be perfect to be beautiful. Michaelin has written

bestselling books and is a true boss, babe, if I've ever known one. But she is exactly the person you think.

If you follow her on the internet, she's warm, incredibly wise and witty, and she's my

in real life friend who I sometimes visit for her iced coffee drink.

I enjoy so much.

She always takes the pressure off, and she always has amazing ways for us to not only enjoy

our own home, but also say welcome home to

others as well with her ease and style. And that's exactly what she shares with us in her new book

by that same name, Welcome Home. You'll love our conversation. So fun, so perfect to help you

decorate and host in the coming seasons. Here we go now with my friend, Michaelan.

Michaelin, is this the most awkward or the most fun thing me interviewing you? I cannot

decide. It's a little both, Lisa. I know, it is. Yeah, if these microphones were in her face, it would be fun.

But all of a sudden, I have sweat in my armpits.

Why?

I know.

Well, because the funny thing is, what the people need to know is we've just, we've been sitting hanging out, chatting for an hour and a half in my house.

So we just now just, but we stuck the microphones in front of us and now all of a sudden we're acting weird. You're sitting up straighter.

Well, if I sit low, I can't reach the microphone.

This is true.

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