Yay, you're here. I'm Lisa Whittle, and welcome to the Jesus Over Everything interview show, affectionately known as Joe's Friday friend, where everyone I sit down and talk with is either an old or a new friend of mine.

Super special show today. Drumroll, please. Everyone's favorite podcaster.

Jamie Ivy is my guest on Joe. Yep, it's true. Jamie is a dear friend of mine, so interviewing her was

so easy. It was also fun since she's had me on her show now three or four times, and this is the

first time I've had her come on here, and I got to

interview her. So it was about time, I thought. Look, if you don't know Jamie as the host of the

popular The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy podcast, you may know her from other things like her new book

UBU, which is really all about how satisfaction and success

might just be closer than we think, as she encourages us to live our own story. In this world of

highlight reels and false views of what it truly means to be successful, I am so grateful

for a voice like Jamie's who's speaking out about true callings that only come from God.

Besides all that, I just love her so stinking much.

Best conversation with my best pal.

Listen in now.

I told Michael in this the other day when I was interviewing her,

I'm not sure friends count for

interviews because it just feels like friends talking, right? It feels like I looked at my calendar

this morning and thought to myself, oh, I get to see my friend or I get to hang out with my

friend and that made me so incredibly happy. Same. I just wish we were seeing each other, but

I'll take this. I'll take it. Any day.

Here's the thing. You've interviewed me like three times and it is my turn now. So I'm so excited.

Is there any question you don't like being asked on an interview? And I want you to be honest,

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