Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a short practical podcast that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, how-toes, and fantastic interviews for the listener on the go.

I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome you to the Joe interview show with me, which I trust and pray

will be time well spent.

If you like laughs, girl talk, and down-to-earth wisdom, you're going to love today's show

with my favorite Sophie Hudson. She's best known to many folks on the internet by her original

blog name. Remember blogs? Yeah. Boo Mama. And she and her friend Melanie Shankle, who has been

on the show as well, have a blast of a podcast called The Big Boocast.

Sophie has a new book called Stand All the Way Up. Listen, if you struggle to please, folks, this show and her book are for you.

Not only do I tell her on air who I compare her to as a writer, she is brilliant, by the way. But also, she and I really talk about important things

and also, yes, fun things because it's Sophie. It's truly the best show with my friend Sophie.

You should listen just to hear us talk about the famous caftan you may or may not have heard about.

Oh my word.

I don't even know where this show is going to go today, but part of me did not want to

plan one single thing and I just sort of wanted to freestyle it with you.

And yet, Sophie, part of me that plans would not allow it.

So I'm caught between, I'm caught in this nebulous situation of just wanting to just

talk to you basically about whatever, which we've been doing off the air for the last 10 minutes.

I'm like, we should have been recording that because that would have been fun for people to hear.

But anyway, yeah.

Here we go.

Here we are.

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