One, two, three.

Skinny face.

Yeah.

It's October 14th.

What time is it?

250 Pacific time.

I'm your host.

Am I a host?

I don't even know because I just watched two hosts going at it for three some hours on

Rogan's podcast.

Sanjay Gupta, Joe Rogan, CNN and mainstream media versus the, you know, upstart intellectual

dark web Spotify hero in a battle royale that wasn't that.

So if you've followed this at all, everybody, you know, if you go on Twitter, if you go

on a social media, everyone says, oh, Joe Rogan's schooled Sanjay Gupta on kids.

And then CNN's Sanjay Gupta, you know, educates Rogan on vaccines.

It's like, well, what, what actually happened was something remarkable, a three hour nuanced

at times testy conversation between two communicators.

Like that's what happened.

And what I want to do as a doctor and someone who fancies that we should be moving towards

what I call the alt middle, which is a way where we respect each other.

We have dialogue.

We see everything is true, but partial.

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