All right, we're here with Joe Nichols. Really exciting. Great to meet you.

Wes and I both grew up listening to your music. Say that you're not that much older than

us, but what are you 45? We're 33 or so. So right in that hey day of getting my driver's license

fish. Yeah, the bird CDs. You'd have a little broken heart spill, a little chili smokes,

mostly drinks on it. Yeah. Yeah, man. I want to start by asking about that. How does it feel like

20 years later or more even to still have songs like that that when it comes on, people don't skip it,

people sing along no matter where you're playing it that comes on the radio. You get excited because

you haven't heard it in so long. Got to feel good right to have songs like that that kind of

withstand the test of time. It feels great. I tell you, back when we were making Man with the

memory of that album and try to do this with every album since, we wanted to make something that

was timeless. At the time and many times since, the popular thing is to go with whatever the

hot sound is, whether that's something that's really pop at the moment or broke country or

whatever it is, that's always kind of the temptation from producers or execs or whoever

and radio to kind of play or push things toward whatever's hot at the moment.

But at that time, and like I said ever since, we always wanted to make a timeless kind of record.

And when I hear that album, I think, man, I know it seemed crazy at the time because people were,

you know, wanting millions of sales. But we made a timeless record, I think. And I feel

better about that than anything I've ever done. You know, that some of that music still holds up

today. What is the pressure like to conform to like whatever the trend is right now? Cause I feel like

there was a moment in like 2013, 14, 15 where there was a pretty dynamic shift towards what

became really popular. And I imagine it's like really hard to like, hey, maybe we could try a little

something like that. Maybe we could push it further and further. And you have such a traditional

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