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No to the bird.

It's a rhetorical question, sir.

But where would we be without books? From KCRW and kCRW.com. I'm Michael Silverblatt and welcome to Bookworm. Today, my guest is Joe McGuinness, Jr.

He's the author of a new book from Simon & Schuster called Carousel Court, and it really threw me for a loop. I don't expect

to bite my knuckles and stay up all night reading. Those are not the kind of books I like,

but it's a novel about the dissolution of a marriage.

This hasn't been a novel of this kind, this good, I would say, since Richard Yates'

famous Revolutionary Road.

But unlike Revolutionary Road, it's a thriller. When does this take place?

Joe McGinnis Jr. Thank you for having me on. To answer your question, it takes place, I would say

around when the mortgage crisis occurred, if we can remember all the way back then, 2008, 2009,

although it's not date-specific because I do believe this works in cycles,

and I feel like it could be today or tomorrow or 10 years from now.

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