From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. You should know my guest, Joe Mangonello,

from his roles and shows, such as

How I Met Your Mother, One Tree Hill. I guess you two wants that song back from you at some

point. And his role, of course, in True Blood, which is starting a new season now, but also

you know him from movies such as Spider-Man and Magic Mike. He's often played characters in

complex situations with an uncomplicated relationship to masculinity.

You think that's a good way to describe these guys, Jim?

I think there's a very good way.

Yeah, definitely.

Especially over the last few years, I think the conversation has become very much about what a man is in today's modern, say, post-feminist world.

Sure.

And I think these guys, too, have been,

there's something kind of very straightforward about them.

And I just think back to your introduction in Magic Mike.

I mean, he's almost like a real working class guy.

He's there in the dressing room wearing those Pinsney's glasses, smoking.

Those are my glasses.

Those are really your glasses?

Yeah, those are actually my my glasses. Those are your glasses. Those are actually my real glasses. Is that really your thong that you were sewing in that shot?

Yeah, I brought it from.

But I mean, just that that introduction to the Magic Mike, just an uncomplicated way of a guy leaving his life.

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