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The New York City Crime Report with Pat Dixon

Joe Lozito: No Special Relationship

The New York City Crime Report with Pat Dixon

Pat Dixon

True Crime, News, News Commentary

4.2831 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2015

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Joe Lozito was riding the 3 train to work when a guy suddenly stabbed him in the face. It turned out the guy who stabbed him was a spree killer who was wanted for 4 murders, and every cop in the NYPD was on high alert.

Joe was able to subdue the mad killer. Two uniformed cops stood by the whole time and did nothing to intervene. Joe was stabbed 7 times in his struggle with Gelman, and cops were painfully slow to secure medical attention after it was over. Joe nearly died.

All in all, it was an appalling display of police work which nearly cost a husband and father of 2 his life.

A corrupt judge helped ensure that Joe's suit against the city wouldn't go forward. For saving an untold number of lives by taking down a killer when the police wouldn't, Joe never received so much as a thank you.

This podcast is dedicated to the Subway Hero: Joe Lozito.

Transcript

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0:00.0

We've barely talked about the guy who tried to lobotomize me.

0:07.0

I hope when they were writing that, they at least laughed when they were writing it.

0:12.0

Like they got, we're gonna screw this guy. Look how funny this is.

0:14.0

That's the thing about subways though, because there's never any seats

0:17.0

because of all the space taken up by the safety devices.

0:20.0

The more, you know, I read about, you, everything, the wind down and stuff like that.

0:24.6

Really, the more kind of, the more I feel stupid about everything I've ever said about it.

0:28.6

Things have to work both ways. So if you do something heroic, you deserve every accolade thrown your way.

0:35.6

All right. When you bitch out, there was no special relationship with anyone so they could go in

0:40.9

and hang out with the conductor.

0:42.5

Maybe he would let them blow the horn or something.

0:44.9

I don't know.

0:46.2

But I guess as long as there was no conversation with any of the passengers, they were

0:50.9

free to stay in there and I could glance over.

0:53.1

And you saw blood. You saw red, you saw this.

0:56.1

You just saw carnage.

0:57.6

To this day, there is nobody that will ever change my mind.

1:00.5

To this day, there is nobody that will ever change my mind that they wanted no part of me in court.

1:06.0

I would have crucified them.

1:07.4

When you bitch out like these two did, then someone has to be held to count.

1:11.4

I think what people need to understand is that I'm so passionate about this because I feel like

1:15.9

I'm right.

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