And it always comes down to the path that you took and how it laid down these strands of

thinking, ways of thinking and doing that make you the only one who does what you do.

And I think it just jumped out at me one day. you the only one who does what you do.

And I think it just jumped out at me one day, like, yes, I'm a design practitioner.

Yes, I've been a strategist for a lot of years.

Yes, I've, you know, for a brief time, been executive at a big company and all of those things have helped me, you know, advance and move my career forward.

But the thread that ties them all together, that deeply rooted. I think in my DNA is this notion of I just love change like I don't think it's a bad thing. I don't see it as risk. I see it as a good thing and bring it on because you know once you get this

mindset of how to think and behave through change of any kind your odds of success go up so I just got a little longer, you know, steeping time to kind of think

through and perfect that. I'm Sreeny Rao and this is the unmistakable Creative Podcast where you get a window into the stories

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Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

It's my pleasure, Shoney.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yeah, absolutely.

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