Joe Cowley: Bulls don't need to overthink it with 4th overall pick (Hour 2)

Spiegel & Holmes Show

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🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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In the second hour, Matt Spiegel and Ryan McGuffey were joined by Sun-Times writer Joe Cowley to discuss the Bulls’ options with the No. 4 overall pick in the NBA Draft. After that, Spiegel and McGuffey discussed Cubs right-hander Ben Brown throwing four scoreless, hitless innings Friday in his first start of the 2026 season.

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0:30.8	Joe Cowley.
0:31.5	Well, you know what?
0:33.2	Is Joe Collie write something?
0:37.0	You know what to write that just because, just because, you know, you don't think that,
0:54.4	that type of media, I don't think you do it. Columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times. According to Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times. Covering Chicago sports for over 20 years. That's Billy Donovan. He has got to go deal with Joe Cowley and all the questions that Joe is going to ask him. My pleasure is great to be with you guys.
0:57.5	All the latest news and notes on your Chicago Bulls. You talked about your philosophy of wanting to always stay competitive and never wanting
1:02.8	to be a tank team.
1:04.0	You guys have to start taking a look at that philosophy and saying, hey, there's a time
1:08.1	and a place to do this and maybe we have to be more prudent in changing our philosophy, always be competitive, always strive for the play-in game. Well, first of all, Joe, you know I never strive to be in the play-in tournament only. Like, that was never the goal. Second of all, we don't know where the lottery changes are happening. Right now, we are in the lottery, so it's kind of, you know, not within our control at this point.
1:31.3	The fourth pick in the NBA draft goes to the Chicago Bulls.
1:36.3	Joe Cowley.
1:38.3	Standard is the standard with Spiegel and Holmes on 104-3, the score.
1:43.3	Man, been a while since we talked to Joe, and this is a good day to do it. Joe Cowley joins us on the Square Hotline. He of the Sun Times. The hotline is brought to you by Potawatomi Casino and Hotel, the Midwest Best Casino. Joe, you're on with me, and Ryan McGuffey, your colleague from the Recap podcast landscape. My guy, I talked to him this morning.
2:02.0	You did? I did. What did you guys talk about? Baseball cards. Is that true, Joe?
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