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The High Performance Podcast

Joe Cole: Inside Chelsea’s Ruthless Era - Abramovich, Mourinho & Mind Games (E378)

The High Performance Podcast

High Performance

Sports, Self-improvement, Mindset, Growth Mindset, Health & Fitness, Non-negotiables, Education, Life Lessons, High Performance

4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Former England and Premier League star Joe Cole opens up about the lessons learned beyond the pitch, honesty, resilience, and what it truly means to live a high performance life.


He reflects on the power of self-accountability, the importance of prioritising family over fame, and the danger of tying your identity solely to your career. Joe speaks candidly about setbacks, pressure, and the freedom that comes from letting go of perfection, reminding us that success is about balance, not constant achievement.


Grounded in kindness and perspective, Joe’s message is clear: when life feels heavy, look outward, helping others might just be the most powerful way to help yourself.


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0:00.0

Roman never came to Cobham. So I was like, oh, yeah, no problem, Dave. He said, you're staying at Chelsea and just left him. Like that silence, this knee injury would come, bang. Not the same player again. I've seen players give up and it's ugly, but I didn't stop trying looking. When he got not well,'d find it difficult to talk. So I wrote a letter.

0:22.2

Everything that needed to be said was said.

0:24.0

A lot of who I am as a person is down to him, yeah.

0:30.1

That is the voice of Joe Cole, legendary England and Chelsea footballer,

0:34.1

Premier League champion West Ham Hero, a player who lived through one of football's most dramatic power shifts.

0:39.7

But this isn't a story about trophies and glory. Well, not just that anyway.

0:44.1

This is also a story about a kid from a Camden Council Estate who played the beautiful game whilst he had the sound of Oasis playing in his head.

0:51.8

And a dad who went to prison but taught him everything about kindness, loyalty

0:55.6

and never backing down. This is a very interesting conversation and I just want to say thanks to

1:00.5

Joe actually because I've worked with Joe known for a very long time and he opened up in a way

1:04.8

he hasn't before and actually sent me quite a few messages Damien after the record sort of just

1:09.8

constantly checking is it okay? Does it matter that I was vulnerable and that I opened up? Which I think tells you a lot, right, about the world that someone has lived in. And you will hear Joe open up, but he will also talk about the intensity of Jose Marino's management, the public criticism, the tactical warfare, and why he could take some of that criticism when

1:29.0

others couldn't. He'll discuss with us the moment he tried to leave Chelsea and ended up in

1:32.8

Roman Abramovich's office being told very simply, you're staying. And actually the importance of staying

1:39.2

true to roots is something that comes through time and time again in this conversation. And you'll

1:43.6

hear him discuss his love of that time at West Ham.

1:47.1

This is also a really beautiful story about George Cole.

1:50.5

Joe's stepdad who couldn't read all right, he had run-ins with the law,

1:54.6

but he still showed up at every game around the world

1:56.9

and handed out tickets to kids who couldn't afford them.

2:00.6

George was a man who changed his entire life so his son could chase his dream.

2:05.4

And so this is actually about what happens when the music stops, when the cheering ends,

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