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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Joe Biden Wants to Be Like Roosevelt. But Can He Get the Votes?

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

President, Barack, News, Politics, Wnyc, Obama, Lizza, Washington, Wickenden

4.3 • 3.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2021

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

When, on the campaign trail, Joe Biden compared his platform to the New Deal—and, by extension, himself to F.D.R.—who really believed him? Certainly not the left of his party. For a generation, the “end of big government” has been near-consensus in Washington, attested to even by Democrats like Bill Clinton, as well as by Republicans who ran up gigantic deficits. In his hugely ambitious, multi-trillion-dollar plans, Joe Biden argues for big government—very big government—as a force for positive change. Those plans may well fail to win the votes he needs in Congress, because the contemporary United States no longer resembles the country that embraced the New Deal. “You can’t put F.D.R. in Dr. Who’s phone booth and bring him to 2021 and he’ll address the American people,” the historian Jill Lepore says. David Remnick discusses the promise and challenges he faces with Lepore, Susan Glasser, Jelani Cobb, and John Cassidy.

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A new political weather has swept into Washington, D.C., and it's taken nearly everyone by surprise.

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Uncharismatic, aging, gaff-prone, hyper-cautious, centrist Joe Biden, has taken on an unlikely

1:08.4

role, the leader of modern Rooseveltian liberalism.

1:13.7

But back up a little bit, in the months before the election, the majority of the Democratic

1:18.4

electorate was more or less united in its disdain for the Trump presidency.

1:23.7

But what of the Democratic Party's nominee?

1:27.2

Sure, Biden was preferable to the race-baiting,

1:30.1

neo-authoritarian in the White House, but who exactly was he? How would he lead? He lacked charisma,

1:36.6

and in ideological terms, he was familiar, centrist, a Capitol Hill veteran with plenty of

1:43.7

bad marks on his historical report card.

1:47.1

And when he compared himself during the campaign to FDR and the potential of his presidency to the New Deal,

1:54.5

who really took that seriously? Certainly not the left wing of the party that supported Bernie Sanders

1:59.5

and not too many others either.

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