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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the

third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed

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Hello and welcome to the podcast.

I'm your host David Rothkopf, coming to you from Washington, D.C.

We've got a great podcast today.

It's a two-parter.

The first part is going to be a conversation with David Korn of Mother Jones and our friend

Simon Rosenberg of N.D.N., of course David Korn is also our friend, about the State

of the Union, the State of American Politics today, where they think things are going.

You won't want to miss that.

Then the second part of the show we're going to go with a conversation with my former co-host

here on this show, Different Co-hosts and Simon, that's Ryan Goodman of NYU, who has

some really interesting insights that have come from the Pomeran's book that was recently

...