You know this better than anyone. The presidential races, more so than Senate races,

even more so than House races, more so than Governor's races. You have to go out and actually show

that you can appeal to people, because these early states are not California. They're not Texas,

they're not Ohio. They're not states where you can just run a bunch of TV ads and introduce yourself

to people. You have to like go and meet people. You can run for Senate in some ways easier

in terms of like lacking a winning personality than you can run for president. The presidential race,

like it or not, is very personality driven.

It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast one of my former colleagues from CNN. You may know him

from his show The Point. He has a book coming out in April, Power Players About Sports,

and the presidency. He's now on Substack. My friend Chris Saliza, welcome Chris.

Hello sir, thanks for having me. It's great to see you. I'm trying to remember the last

times we hung out in person. I do vividly remember a basketball game in New Hampshire. I think

that was the time. Yes, and I think it was officially a draw, though I think you might have gotten

the better of me. Is that what what happened? Oh no, you're you're amending history. You beat me.

Oh wow, that's that's kind. I think if I did beat you, I think you were taking it easy on

the presidential candidate. So thank you. I never take it easy. I only have one speed.

Well, then I feel all the better about it. So you're one of the most plugged in political

reporters in the country. You and I hung out in the early states. I know right now New Hampshire

is having a bit of a meltdown because the Democrats might have deposed them. I made a couple

of big predictions. We're going to open up with 2024, which is what most people think about.

Unfortunately, when they think about politics. That is true. That is true. You're right.

Yes. So I made a couple of predictions to open up the year in 2023. So number one, I said that

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