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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - Wu-Tang's Raekwon & Mobb Deep's Havoc on '36 Chambers,' Prodigy & REAL hip hop

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Football, News, Basketball, Sports, Sports News

4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by a pair of New York City hip hop icons: Raekwon of the legendary Wu-Tang Clan and Havoc of Mobb Deep. Joe and Jada ask Raekwon about the making of the Staten Island crew's legendary 'Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers' album, his 2025 release 'The Emperor's New Clothes,' and his memories coming up in the 1990s with RZA, GZA, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Ghostface Killah, Method Man, and the rest of Wu-Tang. Havoc tells Joe and Jada about how he first met Prodigy in high school before forming Mobb Deep, when Nas first put him on to The Lox, and Mobb Deep's upcoming project 'Infinite' coming out later this year. The four hip hop legends also discuss Havoc and Raekwon's upcoming joint tour, the early days of Big Pun, how Staten Island and Yonkers earned their respect among the boroughs, and why the new generation of rappers have the game messed up.

5:00 - Havoc & Raekwson's start in NYC

14:30 - Ol' Dirty Bastard stories

21:30 - Upcoming joint tour

32:30 - When Joe & Raekwon met Big Pun

42:00 - Mobb Deep linking with The Alchemist

46:30 - Heavy D's influence

50:00 - Nas introducing Mobb Deep to The Lox

59:15 - Joe found his turkey chops

1:03:00 - Raekwon's 'The Emperor's New Clothes'

1:09:15 - They're calling EVERYTHING "hip hop" these days

1:27:00 - Why Joe and Jada is the hottest thing moving

1:32:00 - Havoc debuts new track "Against The World" off 'Infinite'

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