Joe and Jada - Stephen A. Smith DEBATES LeBron's NBA future, Trump & Mamdani, ESPN contract
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4.1 • 10.3K Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by sports media giant Stephen A. Smith, who Joe says is on his pantheon of dream guests alongside Jay-Z and Michael Jordan. Stephen A. does what he does best, debating Joe and Jada about LeBron James' future with the Los Angeles Lakers after the addition of Luka Doncic, whether Joe owes Dak Prescott an apology for his criticisms of the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, if the New York Knicks would be right to gut their roster by trading stars like Karl-Anthony Towns, OG Anunoby, and Mikal Bridges for Milwaukee Bucks superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo, and the likeliness of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs making it back to the top of the NFL world with another Super Bowl. The 'First Take' host also goes into his contract negotiations with ESPN, his rumored presidential ambitions, and his criticisms of Donald Trump and New York City mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani.
7:00 - Does Joe need to apologize to Dak?
9:30 - Antonio Brown
13:00 - Should Knicks trade EVERYONE for Giannis?
21:00 - Why Wemby is SCARY
32:15 - Will Lakers trade LeBron?
41:00 - Stephen A.'s Super Bowl frontrunners
45:00 - Is Shohei Ohtani the GOAT?
51:30 - Inside Stephen A.'s contract negotiations with ESPN
56:30 - Is he running for President?!
1:07:30 - Stephen A. criticizes Zohran Mamdani & Democrats
1:22:00 - Stephen A. blames Joe for Yankees losing to Dodgers
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| 0:00.0 | I got a confession to make right in front of your face because you're my man. |
| 0:02.2 | I love you and he does. |
| 0:03.4 | So I got to tell you, I can't say this behind your back and not say it in front of your face. |
| 0:07.6 | I blame you for the Yankees moving to the Dodgers last year. |
| 0:10.1 | You're full of shit. |
| 0:12.2 | Steve, you full of shit. Yeah, whatever's Joe Cracked at dawn in this motherfucker. |
| 0:32.6 | It's your boy Jada. |
| 0:34.5 | You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. |
| 0:37.9 | Every show legendary, every show iconic, we never let you dad. |
| 0:44.7 | You think of today's guest, she, you think of media guru. |
| 0:51.2 | You think of journalism, phenom, You think of just sports knowledge, history, the ability to |
| 0:59.5 | hold the dialogue with the best of them in the world. Maybe a presidential candidate. |
| 1:05.9 | Maybe one of those also in the near future. Oh, you love that shit. You see, Stan? Without no further to do, ladies and gentlemen, we make some noise for Stephen A. Spare. What's up, yeah? Come about follows. I'm like this. I like, let me tell you all this, man. When my peeps called me and they was like, Steven, you, the guy's in Cali. They was like, and I was going to stay there for a couple of days, whatever, whatever, man. They were like, Stephen, Jada and, and that joke about me. What? Oh, that would be bad. I'll be bad. I ain't missing that. I love y'all, man. I love this show. I couldn't wait. This invite I've been waiting for. And I'm a busy man, but I was waiting this year. |
| 1:44.7 | I was letting it marinate because, you know, we almost got each other in the back pocket. No doubt. It's like, let me marinate in it. Oh, yeah. 50 episodes. Yeah. And then bring out the big dog. Right. Because, you know, this guy, we can't waste. you know, sometimes you got to build up that audience |
| 2:00.2 | for when you placed a big, |
| 2:01.9 | you wanted a big dog. |
| 2:03.5 | One of them. |
| 2:04.4 | No, no, no, no, no, no. The trifecta, let me tell you something. You, MJ, I hope. You're not a big dog. I ain't going to never say that about myself. No, I'm'm gonna tell you. I'll take it. No, I'm telling you the truth. Love you, bro. You know that. Man, 20 million a year, god damn it shit. What the fuck from Queens? Hollis. Born in the Bronx. Yeah, true. How you didn't know that? Oh, I never know. |
| 2:37.7 | You don't even get a flag. |
| 2:40.6 | I threw a flag on myself. |
| 2:43.7 | Born in the Bronx, I always thought you was from Queens. |
| 2:44.3 | I'm happy. |
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