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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - Sheryl Swoopes on WNBA Mt. Rushmore, ICONIC Nike deal, J. Cole in China & Caitlyn Clark’s MVP chances

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Sports, News, Basketball, Football, Sports News

4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Sheryl Swoopes, four-time WNBA champion, three-time MVP, and the first player ever signed in the WNBA. Sheryl breaks down how Nike approached her about the first-ever women's signature basketball shoe and  how that moment opened doors for every woman who came after her. She talks about growing up in Brownfield, Texas, playing ball with her brother, her mom working the cafeteria and cleaning houses, and why failure was never an option. Sheryl shares the emotional weight of being able to sit down for a nice dinner with her brothers after everything they came from. She gives her take on Geno Auriemma not dapping up Dawn Staley after the Final Four, explains why Black women are always expected to take the higher road, and says that moment put a stain on his legacy. She runs through her top five WNBA players of all time and breaks down why the Indiana Fever have a real shot to win it all with Raven Johnson moving Caitlin Clark off the ball. Joe goes in on J. Cole's one-game basketball career in China, tells stories from his prison basketball league, and Jada announces that he wants in on the next NBA Celebrity All-Star Game.

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10:30 Fat Joe roasts J. Cole's China stint

20:00 Cheryl's Nike signature shoe

31:00 Making it out of a small town in Texas

41:30 Gino Auriemma snubbing Dawn Staley

58:00 Top 5 WNBA players all-time

1:02:30 Lisa Leslie & the growth of the WNBA

1:19:00 Hard Rock Bet: WNBA title, MVP bets

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0:00.0

And so, like, I'm looking at Cheryl Swoops.

0:02.2

I said, she got her own face.

0:08.4

You don't look like nobody else.

0:10.2

We all have our own face.

0:14.3

Yeah, but you don't look like nobody else, meaning Cheryl Swoos, Sheryl Spooke.

0:18.8

We don't get to confuse.

0:20.4

Shell what? Shell Swoos, Shells. We don't get to confuse. Shell what?

0:21.4

Shell swoop.

0:22.0

We don't get you confused with nobody else.

0:26.0

You got your own distinctive...

0:27.5

You know, one time I landed in L.A.

0:30.0

Six-hour flight.

0:31.2

Here we go. Yo, what up, y'all, this Joe Crack to Dawn.

0:48.0

You know who it is, your boy Jada?

0:49.9

This is the Joe and Jada show.

0:52.4

Every show legendary, every show iconic.

0:55.5

Iconic.

0:56.5

And we ain't stopping.

0:57.8

Okay.

0:59.1

This is a serious iconic one.

1:01.5

You heard what I said.

1:03.1

Every show legendary, every show iconic.

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