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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - John Leguizamo on playing Pablo Escobar, 'Carlito's Way' & Latin representation in Hollywood

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

Sports, News, Basketball, Football, Sports News

4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by John Leguizamo, the Queens-born actor, comedian, and playwright now starring as Pablo Escobar in the first authorized Escobar story, the Spanish-language Hulu series 'Dear Killer Nannies.' Leguizamo breaks down what it was like playing Benny Blanco in 'Carlito's Way,’ the real drug dealer he based his performance on, and what he thought about Al Pacino playing a Puerto Rican. Joe and John reminisce on working together on the 2002 film ‘Empire,’ and Joe talks about writing “My Lifestyle” during the shoot using the all the gangster themes as inspiration. Then, they talk Pabo Escobar: which actor portrayed him best, Pablo’s son consulting on the show, the legends behind what happened to his $30 billion, and why there will never be another gangster like him again.

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8:00 Joe & John's 2002 film 'Empire'

10:00 Lack of Latin representation in Hollywood

13:00 'Carlito's Way' & Benny Blanco's legacy

22:00 Why Fat Joe CAN'T retire

31:00 Playing Pablo Escobar in 'Dear Killer Nannies'

46:00 What happened to Pablo's $30 billion?

52:00 Why there will never be a gangster like Pablo again

58:00 Joe tells hilarious Terror Squad stories

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0:00.0

No gloss, no filter.

0:03.1

Just stories.

0:04.8

Spoken without fear.

0:06.5

Person who is not generous can not be an artist.

0:09.4

The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers.

0:14.3

Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Abhaw on the IHeart Radio app,

0:18.5

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:22.9

Come for the honesty.

0:24.9

Stay for the fire.

0:28.7

I didn't like the movie the first time I saw it.

0:31.4

What?

0:31.8

I'm telling you.

0:33.8

That's a left turn on the highway.

0:35.5

That's a flag.

0:36.2

I'm driving 90 miles on the highway.

0:38.6

John, that's a flag.

0:39.7

Yeah, yeah, a flag.

0:41.0

A flag on the plate.

0:42.2

Two flags.

0:43.6

That's three flags.

0:44.8

Let me tell you why.

0:46.2

What the fuck you mean you didn't like it?

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