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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Joe and Jada - Erick Sermon talks 'Dynamic Duos' album: Tupac, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Snoop & more

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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4.110.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary rapper and producer Erick Sermon, and Sermon tells Joe and Jada about his illustrious hip hop career with EPMD alongside PMD and DJ Scratch, selling over 70 million records working with superstars like Jay-Z, Method Man, LL Cool J, and D'Angelo, the surprising way he met Redman, and his missed opportunities to get in early to sign future legends like Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., and Wu-Tang Clan. Sermon also talks about his upcoming project 'Dynamic Duos,' which features a star-studded lineup of paired legends like Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls; Prodigy and Havoc of Mobb Deep; Snoop Dogg and Nate Dogg; Method Man and Redman; and Billy Danze and Lil Fame of M.O.P.

5:30 - Erick Sermon co-signs Rewind It 10

10:00 - EPMD's albums, production & sampling

14:00 - Meeting Redman & missing out on signing Biggie, Nas & Wu-Tang

35:30 - Fat Joe wonders what would've happened if he'd moved to Atlanta

38:00 - Watching Nas & Jay-Z build billion-dollar empires

48:15 - Artists that bailed on features

53:30 - Eddie Murphy documentary

1:01:00 - Fat Joe's falling out with his lawyer & accountant

1:04:00 - Erick Sermon explains how Spotify & streaming platforms rob artists

1:10:00 - 'Dynamic Duos' & Pharrell's lawsuit

1:27:00 - Erick Sermon plays 3 tracks off 'Dynamic Duos'

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0:00.0

I got to flex one time because I don't talk.

0:02.3

I know.

0:02.8

There's nobody like me.

0:05.4

I don't go.

0:05.8

Who out there?

0:06.9

Because again, people talk about shit.

0:08.8

I'm talking now.

0:24.2

Yo, what up, y'all?

0:25.3

This is Joe Crack.

0:25.9

Yes.

0:27.3

It's your boy Jada.

0:28.4

Yo, it's the Serm.

0:29.8

You know what it is.

0:37.7

The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic, and we never let you down.

0:41.7

Today's guests when you think of hip-hop,

0:45.3

when you think of style, fashion, iconic,

0:48.9

when you think of one of the first Sonically voices that drove everybody crazy.

0:51.5

When you think of camaraderie chemistry.

0:56.8

When you think of production,

0:59.1

when you think of a mentor that created a motherfucker

1:02.8

conglomerate in the dynasty way back before

1:06.1

people was even doing that kind of things

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